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		<title>Comment on Sendak Link and Writer Traits by Trent</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/sendak-link-and-writer-traits/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To bounce off Marc&#039;s good comment there is a lot of evidence to support the view that Robert Frost literally wrote to keep himself sane.  Several members of his family did not write, and suffered terrible mental collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To bounce off Marc&#8217;s good comment there is a lot of evidence to support the view that Robert Frost literally wrote to keep himself sane.  Several members of his family did not write, and suffered terrible mental collapse.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muses and Slogging Through by Marc</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/muses-and-slogging-through/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love inspiration.  I love it when it hits, and when the words flow effortlessly and the end result scares me because it seems like its giving too much of myself away.

And I think the only way inspiration comes is through practice.  Just keep writing, even if its about something mundane.  I&#039;m keeping a diary of my son&#039;s pre-schooling years, because those are the years when Deb and I have the biggest impact on him.  Some days the words just flow.  Other days I just keep on writing, even if its only about what we had for dinner.  I feel that if I don&#039;t write the mundane stuff, I&#039;ll never get to the other stuff.

In a way, this is like meditation.  My understanding is that meditators have to let go of all the little crappy stuff that floats to the top so they can get to the good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love inspiration.  I love it when it hits, and when the words flow effortlessly and the end result scares me because it seems like its giving too much of myself away.</p>
<p>And I think the only way inspiration comes is through practice.  Just keep writing, even if its about something mundane.  I&#8217;m keeping a diary of my son&#8217;s pre-schooling years, because those are the years when Deb and I have the biggest impact on him.  Some days the words just flow.  Other days I just keep on writing, even if its only about what we had for dinner.  I feel that if I don&#8217;t write the mundane stuff, I&#8217;ll never get to the other stuff.</p>
<p>In a way, this is like meditation.  My understanding is that meditators have to let go of all the little crappy stuff that floats to the top so they can get to the good stuff.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sendak Link and Writer Traits by Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the traits we share is that writing keeps us sane.  Another friend of mine claims that if she doesn&#039;t get in enough writing time, she starts to feel mentally ill.  I know what she means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the traits we share is that writing keeps us sane.  Another friend of mine claims that if she doesn&#8217;t get in enough writing time, she starts to feel mentally ill.  I know what she means.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Life and Death and Writing by Ann</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/life-and-death-and-writing/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t read the obits, and I never really enjoy books with main characters who die. I get attached to them, you know? I want them to continue to live long and fulfilling lives, even after the book ends. Though I do like John Irving&#039;s &quot;A Prayer for Owen Meany.&quot;

I mostly just think about death in the abstract. I&#039;m not yet at the point where I&#039;m comfortable with it on a personal level. I&#039;ve been extremely lucky in that everyone to whom I&#039;m close is still around, so I haven&#039;t had the experience of dealing with such a tragedy.

And yet, I&#039;ve somehow become the designated eulogy-writer for my extended family. I&#039;ve been working on one for my 105-year-old great-grandmother for a while now, at her daughter&#039;s request. She&#039;s not even dead yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t read the obits, and I never really enjoy books with main characters who die. I get attached to them, you know? I want them to continue to live long and fulfilling lives, even after the book ends. Though I do like John Irving&#8217;s &#8220;A Prayer for Owen Meany.&#8221;</p>
<p>I mostly just think about death in the abstract. I&#8217;m not yet at the point where I&#8217;m comfortable with it on a personal level. I&#8217;ve been extremely lucky in that everyone to whom I&#8217;m close is still around, so I haven&#8217;t had the experience of dealing with such a tragedy.</p>
<p>And yet, I&#8217;ve somehow become the designated eulogy-writer for my extended family. I&#8217;ve been working on one for my 105-year-old great-grandmother for a while now, at her daughter&#8217;s request. She&#8217;s not even dead yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Life and Death and Writing by thewritingrunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>thewritingrunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t read the obits, but probably because I no longer get the local paper.  I read all of my news online.  I think I would if I still got the paper.

Many of my favorite books have a character who dies.  I&#039;ve heard that creative writing profs often ask students to write an obit for their favorite characters, but I didn&#039;t really take any creative writing classes so I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s true.  All of that said, I have written a book with a protagonist who works in the obit department of a major newspaper.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t read the obits, but probably because I no longer get the local paper.  I read all of my news online.  I think I would if I still got the paper.</p>
<p>Many of my favorite books have a character who dies.  I&#8217;ve heard that creative writing profs often ask students to write an obit for their favorite characters, but I didn&#8217;t really take any creative writing classes so I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s true.  All of that said, I have written a book with a protagonist who works in the obit department of a major newspaper.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on On Word Counts by Daniel Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/on-word-counts/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuts and revisions are how we find the true meat of the work. I have, on a couple of occasions, cut away too much of a piece, but that&#039;s pretty rare. Usually my experience has been that an &quot;outside&quot; editor spots the fat more easily than I do. But there have been, as I say, a couple notable instances where the forced reduction of word count gutted the flow of a piece.
As far as red pens: they do seem to be something of a red flag (sorry) for many people. I use them at times simply because they&#039;re easy to see, but I know teaching artists who use purple, or green, just because those colors don&#039;t have the same negative symbolism. Whatever the color, it&#039;s good to get used to dealing with the criticism of others. It&#039;ll be there all your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuts and revisions are how we find the true meat of the work. I have, on a couple of occasions, cut away too much of a piece, but that&#8217;s pretty rare. Usually my experience has been that an &#8220;outside&#8221; editor spots the fat more easily than I do. But there have been, as I say, a couple notable instances where the forced reduction of word count gutted the flow of a piece.<br />
As far as red pens: they do seem to be something of a red flag (sorry) for many people. I use them at times simply because they&#8217;re easy to see, but I know teaching artists who use purple, or green, just because those colors don&#8217;t have the same negative symbolism. Whatever the color, it&#8217;s good to get used to dealing with the criticism of others. It&#8217;ll be there all your life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rules vs. Guidelines and the Challenge of Blogging by Daniel Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/rules-vs-guidelines-and-the-challenge-of-blogging/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mara,
I think you&#039;ve hit it exactly right. When I taught in classrooms as a teaching artist I often told kids, &quot;Every rule can be broken.&quot; (In writing, at least!)&quot;But first you&#039;ve got to understand the rule in order to break it cleverly.&quot;
I would be hardpressed to identify a rule that couldn&#039;t be broken. . . . at least, by a genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mara,<br />
I think you&#8217;ve hit it exactly right. When I taught in classrooms as a teaching artist I often told kids, &#8220;Every rule can be broken.&#8221; (In writing, at least!)&#8221;But first you&#8217;ve got to understand the rule in order to break it cleverly.&#8221;<br />
I would be hardpressed to identify a rule that couldn&#8217;t be broken. . . . at least, by a genius.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Word Counts by marami820</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/on-word-counts/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>marami820</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The red pen does have the benefit of being easily seen. Perhaps that is the reason that editors like to use them and not that they want to crush their writers with an air of superiority. Hmmm.

Couple of thoughts came into mind after reading Trent&#039;s comment.

One was a comment by Chris Lynch who said, &quot;you don&#039;t need to say everything in one book. There will always be more books to write.&quot;

The other was a comment by Bruce Brooks. It is often said that as a writer you have to kill your babies meaning that you have to cut those beloved lines when they are unnecessary. But Bruce Brooks didn&#039;t compare his edits to babies but rather car parts. He used a VW bus analogy. Save those parts in your garage (or did he say front yard?) and use them for another bus.

Best,

Mara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The red pen does have the benefit of being easily seen. Perhaps that is the reason that editors like to use them and not that they want to crush their writers with an air of superiority. Hmmm.</p>
<p>Couple of thoughts came into mind after reading Trent&#8217;s comment.</p>
<p>One was a comment by Chris Lynch who said, &#8220;you don&#8217;t need to say everything in one book. There will always be more books to write.&#8221;</p>
<p>The other was a comment by Bruce Brooks. It is often said that as a writer you have to kill your babies meaning that you have to cut those beloved lines when they are unnecessary. But Bruce Brooks didn&#8217;t compare his edits to babies but rather car parts. He used a VW bus analogy. Save those parts in your garage (or did he say front yard?) and use them for another bus.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Mara</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cool Links by Marc</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/cool-links/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool link.  Its nice to see a visualization of a lot of the things writers are facing/coping with/expanding their abilities with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool link.  Its nice to see a visualization of a lot of the things writers are facing/coping with/expanding their abilities with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Word Counts by Trent Reedy</title>
		<link>http://publigate.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/on-word-counts/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Reedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that Mara specifically mentions the editor&#039;s use of the red pen.  When I was in college learning to be an English teacher, my classmates and I were specifically warned not to use red pens to mark mistakes in writing.  We were informed that when our students saw the red ink on their papers, their self esteem would be shattered and they would never write again!

I figure that if red ink is the biggest problem my students will ever have in their lives, then they are headed for greatness.  On the other hand, if they can&#039;t handle a red pen, they are doomed to failure and might as well start in my class.

On a more serious note, while researching for a lecture, I was recently in touch with some very well respected authors in the kidlit field.  When asked how they marked improvement as a writer, they again and again answered that it was very important to learn to cut and get rid of material that the story can do without.

Maybe it is a function of the human instinct to value that which is rare.  If diamonds were as common as limestone, then they would not sell for nearly as much money.  Children are reluctant to share their last piece of gum; that one last piece is more valuable.  Perhaps it is the same with our writing.  If a person has only written one novel, he finds it very difficult to cut parts of it, for fear he won&#039;t be able to come up with something as good again.  But if a man has four or five different manuscripts, he is better able to cut, knowing that there&#039;s more where that cut scene came from.  Thus, more experienced writers would point to the ability to let parts of one&#039;s writing go, as a measure of improvement and development.

Excellent post, as usual, Mara.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that Mara specifically mentions the editor&#8217;s use of the red pen.  When I was in college learning to be an English teacher, my classmates and I were specifically warned not to use red pens to mark mistakes in writing.  We were informed that when our students saw the red ink on their papers, their self esteem would be shattered and they would never write again!</p>
<p>I figure that if red ink is the biggest problem my students will ever have in their lives, then they are headed for greatness.  On the other hand, if they can&#8217;t handle a red pen, they are doomed to failure and might as well start in my class.</p>
<p>On a more serious note, while researching for a lecture, I was recently in touch with some very well respected authors in the kidlit field.  When asked how they marked improvement as a writer, they again and again answered that it was very important to learn to cut and get rid of material that the story can do without.</p>
<p>Maybe it is a function of the human instinct to value that which is rare.  If diamonds were as common as limestone, then they would not sell for nearly as much money.  Children are reluctant to share their last piece of gum; that one last piece is more valuable.  Perhaps it is the same with our writing.  If a person has only written one novel, he finds it very difficult to cut parts of it, for fear he won&#8217;t be able to come up with something as good again.  But if a man has four or five different manuscripts, he is better able to cut, knowing that there&#8217;s more where that cut scene came from.  Thus, more experienced writers would point to the ability to let parts of one&#8217;s writing go, as a measure of improvement and development.</p>
<p>Excellent post, as usual, Mara.  Thank you.</p>
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